Are Ryzen 5000 CPUs FAILING?

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Are Ryzen 5000 CPUs FAILING? Paul's Tech News - Feb 21, 2020
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► TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:12 AMD Investigates USB Flakiness with PCIe 4, 500 Series Chipsets
2:13 Do Ryzen 5000 CPUs & X570 Motherboards Have High Failure Rates?
4:00 NVIDIA Nerfs 3060 Crypto Mining, Launches CMP Dedicated Mining Cards
5:58 TECH BRIEFS - ZOTAC enrages PC gamers with mining GPU tweet
6:21 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT to launch on March 18th
6:55 Intel 11900K box spotted! Also Z590 reviewers Kit
7:26 WoW: Burning Crusade Classic announced at Blizzcon
►LINKS
▷MAIN STORIES
AMD Investigates USB Flakiness With PCIe 4 And 500 Series Chipsets
hothardware.com/news/amd-investigates-usb-flakiness-with-pcie-4-and-500-chipsets-possible-fixes
Do AMD Ryzen 5000 ‘Zen 3’ Desktop CPUs & X570 Motherboards Have High Failure Rates?
wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5000-zen-3-desktop-cpus-x570-motherboards-high-failure-rates/
www.pcworld.com/article/3608349/ryzen-5000-failure-rates-we-reality-check-the-claims.html
NVIDIA Nerfs Ethereum Hash Rate & Launches CMP Dedicated Mining Hardware
www.anandtech.com/show/16493/nvidia-launches-cmp-dedicated-mining-hardware
www.techpowerup.com/278712/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-anti-mining-feature-goes-beyond-driver-version-could-expand-to-more-skus
blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/02/18/geforce-cmp/
▷TECH BRIEFS
ZOTAC enrages PC gamers by promoting GeForce RTX as mining GPUs
www.guru3d.com/news-story/zotac-enrages-pc-gamers-by-promoting-geforce-rtx-as-mining-gpus.html
AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT to launch on March 18th
videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-to-launch-on-march-18th
wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-launches-with-two-variants-rx-6700-graphics-card-rumor/
Intel 11900K box spotted! Also Z590 reviewers Kit
videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-11900k-rocket-lake-s-series-packaging-leaked
videocardz.com/newz/intel-rocket-lake-s-cpu-review-sample-already-in-reviewers-hand
WoW: Burning Crusade Classic announced at Blizzcon
www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcraft-classic-is-getting-burning-crusade-servers-this-year/
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Paul's Hardware
Paul's Hardware 11 өдрийн өмнө
Thanks for watching everyone! PLEASE NOTE: The title is a question. The answer is in the video -- and TLDW, that answer is no, at least not any more than is typical.
Scott Nemeth
Scott Nemeth 11 цагийн өмнө
Depending on how you define failing, my 5900x is failing to talk to my keyboard and mouse randomly. And it’s such a big issue that AMD has finally legally acknowledged the failures related to the B550 and X570 boards paired with the 5000 series GPUs relating to completely dead USB ports or ports dropping out randomly. Just checking out readit and other MNpost channels, I’m willing to bet AMD’s failure rate is much higher but I have no actual statics yet to prove how many people actually have this issue but it’s definitely more common when running 4.0 settings for NVME M2 drives and band-aided by downgrading the bios to run 3.0 instead of 4.0. Interestingly enough, the intel gpu’s aren’t having this issue using the same mb manufacturers equivalent boards to the amd boards with the 5000 series chips. I think some new poles need to be done on that failure bc it’s sounding much higher in forums on readit for my failure
Grillierer M
Grillierer M 20 цагийн өмнө
@ricky v Don’t know if it’s normal for them. But it’s clearly unwillingness or incompetence. My experience cannot be described as excellent customer service.
ricky v
ricky v 22 цагийн өмнө
@Grillierer M You have every right to be. Is that common for that company?
Grillierer M
Grillierer M Өдрийн өмнө
My 5900X failed after a few weeks. RMA process with AMD is so slow. They’re dragging it out with repeated requests of the same things. 2 weeks already and they haven’t even told me where to send the processor. Infuriating!
ricky v
ricky v Өдрийн өмнө
@Bart Yes
chris cab
chris cab Цагийн өмнө
best camera used over everyone ive seen
PCDYYD
PCDYYD 2 цагийн өмнө
Hmmmmm, i did have some weird freeze issue onmy Ryzen 3 3200g, but i think that was thing with C states or something? Been working now just fine after i tweaked my power settings... I lowered some power settings n stuff, and bought greater psu. Oh yea, i dont do overclocks, just the basic xmp profile.
Valerio Funk
Valerio Funk 12 цагийн өмнө
Now Intel is winning the Game, i'm not a fanboy of any company but the i5 10 gen is a Bang for your buck.
Andy Pyle
Andy Pyle 19 цагийн өмнө
The usb issue is a real pain, it has happened a couple of times.
sabre Lemew
sabre Lemew 22 цагийн өмнө
Speaking of getting ahold of a gpu. You have recommended MicroCenter in the past so I wonder what your take is on them advertising online and Not selling them online. Are you nearby to the store in Tustin , as it's the closest one to where I live and as tempting as a road trip might be ... I would rather have the part mailed. Speaking with a live operator online I was told they only sell them ( graphics card ) in store . On March 1st they advertised having 3 available. Could be some of that back alley stuff you refer to ? MicroCenter gets a shit listing from me.
Neil Hyde
Neil Hyde Өдрийн өмнө
i legit had to slow down the play speed on this! you speak way to fast! take a breath and relax mate!
Muhammad Azfar Noordin
Muhammad Azfar Noordin Өдрийн өмнө
I am using ryzen 5950x with a mobo of msi x570 gaming pro carbon wifi, my mouse, razer deathadder v2 pro will usually stuck when i restart my pc. To overcome the problem i just turn off and then on my mouse, after that the mouse works perfectly fine.
Cris n Mary Fam
Cris n Mary Fam 2 өдрийн өмнө
"How was this person able to get that many of that exact gpu?" because they walked out the back with them before they ever hit sales screens.
Roberto Ventilii
Roberto Ventilii 2 өдрийн өмнө
I wonder if these limitations to mining calculations are activated out of control in other legitimate applications as well (even homebrews for example) on my GPU ...
Karl Easterly
Karl Easterly 2 өдрийн өмнө
my amd cpu 5900x died after 8 months... took three weeks for a replacement under rma... umpf
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
lol. See? I predicted this huge AMD-problem... But i said it would take 1-2 years until the first AMD Ryzen 5000-cpus will die. So 8 months is even less than i expected it to last. :D
GottHold Nicetomeet
GottHold Nicetomeet 2 өдрийн өмнө
I mean the ryzen cpus out of the box run extremly hot. But it still runs very well. Oh and yeah i have all the time my joysticks replugging themselves with my pc since i have the ryzen :/
18landshark
18landshark 2 өдрийн өмнө
i have not experienced the cpu problem with ryzen 5 5600x on a b550 board. But i do not have gen 4 m.2. Happy i saved money and stuck with gen 3 lol
Jace'sFunkyFace
Jace'sFunkyFace 2 өдрийн өмнө
I’ve been eating my USB peripherals. Freaking built my new PC and many USB peripherals keep sporadically disconnecting... so annoying.
Swarasyam
Swarasyam 2 өдрийн өмнө
You sounds like Lester from GTA 5.
Data is a great day get Ntn
Data is a great day get Ntn 3 өдрийн өмнө
I think your being paid by intel
Mark D
Mark D 3 өдрийн өмнө
Paul your a horrible fan boy! If intel had a 3x failure rate over AMD you would make 10 videos about it!
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
and you are the AMD_fanboy here? AMD fanboys are so much worse. and dude? There is no "if" here. Intel doesn´t have it. You are just comparing apples with oranges here. THere is a good reason Intel hasn´t used 7nm so far. Now you begin to understand the consequences...i guarantee you will understand this in the next coming 2 years...
Patrick Felipe
Patrick Felipe 3 өдрийн өмнө
I have a ryzen 3800x with asus x570 tug gaming plus. 3 weeks ago it states that a usb error and it won’t go to windows. I took off all of the usb that is connected to it and found out that it was a usb-c type headphone that was connected to it created a conflict....I’m not quite sure but during startup I jus unplug that usb headphone and plug it in when windows start and it’s fine...is my problem connected to this issue - I guess I will never find out!
John Olooney
John Olooney 3 өдрийн өмнө
3060 b/s miners simply use custom drivers and bios any muppet knows that
John Olooney
John Olooney 3 өдрийн өмнө
I must say I haven’t had this issue at all - but wait ! It’s because I run intel only 😜
Ace Strife
Ace Strife 3 өдрийн өмнө
My 3950x can't even prime95 stable at stock settings on my Crosshair VIII Hero. AMD/ASUS pls.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
xD
ironman tooltime
ironman tooltime 3 өдрийн өмнө
FUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Glees89
Glees89 3 өдрийн өмнө
Holy shitballs, is this why my Mx master is weirdly freezing for no good reason at random times during apex legends, X570 5800x
Atypical Male
Atypical Male 3 өдрийн өмнө
They crippled it by not having stock. #FAILnotFAIL
Mucho Chalupa
Mucho Chalupa 3 өдрийн өмнө
My 5900x stopped booting 1week into having it. Rig worked with another CPU. Had to file and RMA request, but got a free replacement within 3 weeks.
Scott Nemeth
Scott Nemeth 3 өдрийн өмнө
Just got my 1st USB dropout issue using USB3.1 to a 3.0 USB 5 port hub using a Corsair rbg k70 keyboard, Logitech G502 mouse, and a n audeze Möbius all plugged in on a Asus Rog Strix X570 E-gaming mb with a 5900x. Only happened 1 time after about 1 month of use after with about 1-4hr sessions each day. It temporarily dropped out all my external USB devices well gaming in Black op cold war campaign. I’m worried about this getting worse. Running - Asus Rog Strix X570 E-gaming mb Bios 2802 x64 - Nvme 4.0 gigabyte Aurora 1tb drive - 16gb of 3000mhz dual channel ram - 3080 Asus Tuf gaming gpu - 1200watt pcu gold 80+ - lian li mesh 2.0 with 2x 120 top exhaust fans, 1x 120 rear exhaust fan, and 5 from fans with 4 of those setup as a push-pull through a 240 cpu aio radiator. ( but I did not see actual cpu temps but the exhaust heat was still cool after 2 hrs of gaming) next time I will chech cpu/gpu temps when the issue happens to see if I have a bad cooler connection to the chipsets.
Scott Nemeth
Scott Nemeth 11 цагийн өмнө
@Walther Penne Good to know, I changed my PCI-E NVME M2 4.0 drive to a 3.0 after talking to another MNpostr on his channel who said his issues were resolved after doing that since we had similar setups and the same issue. But still, we both spent a couple hundred extra to have the faster drives so this is a temporary patch well AMD figures this out. It’s not cool to pay for a product that is advertised to run newer harder only to find out it actually can’t run it without causing serious hardware crashes and failures so we have to run drives at half there capable speeds. So far, no more issues but I haven’t pushed my graphics card to hard yet like i did maxing out black ops cold war settings for my 3080 tuf gpu over a 3hr session which was the only time my 3.1 usb ports dropped out and luckily came back online after 10seconds. I’ve only been playing war thunder 1-2 hours at a time and watch streaming shows for 1 hr each night well I eat dinner.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
It will get worse dude...
greg B
greg B 3 өдрийн өмнө
lol blizzard relaunching old expansions lol
Richard Morici
Richard Morici 4 өдрийн өмнө
My keyboard once in a while just stops working, lights will stay on, have to unplug it and plug it back in and it fixes it
Young Chang
Young Chang 4 өдрийн өмнө
The very very very very very first thing I wanted to add is comment about your title and I see your PIN. But I'll still post please understand. (Note:10+ year account max 30 comments?), because I enjoy your news is to add something about news in title. The viewer you're targeting is news gamer guy who don't watch many of your video's Paul but I would come back to your news all the time. Thank you.
jouni k
jouni k 4 өдрийн өмнө
fortnite players overclockin, even if OC is useles, in csgo fps rises 500 to 600 put human brain sees 60fps only, firts undervolt for year then 2 year after OC and more after year, no need buyin new cpu every year
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
Undervolting makes modern processors running unstable dude...Btw. the more you OC your processor, the faster it will die now...Which is one reason many AMD Ryzen processors die like flies...
bmoraski
bmoraski 4 өдрийн өмнө
" That solves everything " Classic.
kaschjohn
kaschjohn 4 өдрийн өмнө
What about WHEA errors?
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
yeah. These also mean you have an instable running AMD Ryzen processor!
ネーナ・トリニティ
ネーナ・トリニティ 4 өдрийн өмнө
Clickbait title but truth behind it? I like! :D
hctiB elttiL
hctiB elttiL 4 өдрийн өмнө
Meanwhile, I can confirm that there are impeccable 5900x golden chips out there that maintain ridiculous boost frequencies on an air cooler. *opens bag of popcorn*
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
yes...and? The point is: These chips will die in the next ~9 months of usage...
Ducks
Ducks 4 өдрийн өмнө
im using a 5800x on a b450 should i upgrade motherboard?
Matt C.
Matt C. 4 өдрийн өмнө
The number of hours I've spent troubleshooting this and trying to come up with solutions to decongest my usb bus (redundant bus, I know) cuz I thought I was having bandwidth issues!!!! Face palm Trying to run a 5 monitor MSFS2020 rig with OBS streaming/recording. The system is not happy when all of my usb devices simultaneously quit playing.
Not You Again
Not You Again 5 өдрийн өмнө
We need a new GPU silicon manufacturer on the scene that literally only sells one GPU at a time from their own website with free shipping and normal MSRP/retail value sale prices! Everyone loves to toss the blame to covid for everything. Can't find your favorite soda in the store? COVID! Can't find a new toothbrush? COVID!! FFS We are not in lock down anymore and effectively it is business as usual for 90% or more of people aside from wearing a mask during your routine day/s. SO fucking dumb that they actually think people believe this, even though there are a few that will believe anything the news tells them or that they read on a random forum!
Not You Again
Not You Again Өдрийн өмнө
@Walther Penne Yeah, I have heard all about that, but I am not banking on them for much at all right now. CPU? Oh yeah the intel thunder is 100% gone AF for now due to AMD rolling in and a heavy kick to the intel face! Right now intels best thing going for them are the newer m.2 PCIE 4.0 SSDs and server based stuff. Everything else they are selling is for system manufacturers because no one with enough know how to build their own machine is going to pick intel right now. I prefer intel stuff because what they sell "just works". but in retrospect AMD stuff can't even manage to maintain USB connectivity! How screwed uo does shit have to be and get for the functions of USB slots to just randomly stop working? That is rough, and what is more important is that in the cases people resolved the issues they had to turn their PC into a build from a few years back before PCIE 4.0 came out since you have to change the bios settings so that the PCIE lanes run at 3.0 instead of 4.0! All the madness is not limited to just PC stuff either. It is in every major market right now. It is a mad house everywhere you look! lmfao
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
Intel soon will produce Highend GPUs again. Expect this spring/Summer for starting production...
Kì Ng
Kì Ng 5 өдрийн өмнө
Money can’t love. But sure can placed GPU order right at shipping dock.
Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez 5 өдрийн өмнө
Hey man I just bought an Omen computer with an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X and Radeon RX 5700 and when I updated my drivers for the graphics card and started the install my computer restarted itself. It did it every time I tried to update adrenaline. Now my computer refuses to start windows and is in what seems to be an endless restarting loop. I can’t even try to attempt to reinstall windows because my computer always restarts during the process. Is this some of the problems people are facing? Any suggestions? Thanks!
jan de muziekman
jan de muziekman 5 өдрийн өмнө
Hi, I just build a computer with a Ryzen 3 3200G which couldn't be detected by the MSI B450M Bazooka motherboard, so this could be such a failing one. Glad to hear a solution, this is just my 2e build, monday I'll return the Cpu. thanks
Roland O.
Roland O. 5 өдрийн өмнө
I am experiencing the issue of getting my headset disconnected from the USB hub, so I've had to work around and connect with the AUX-output on my monitor. More concerning to me though is, that it seems to effect my Corsair iCue connections as well (these are obviously through internal USB 2.0 headers, so no real deviation from the original symptom) which is worrying me a lot because I am afraid it might lead to my H115-cooling pump not spinning and therefore frying my CPU. Furthermore the display output of my 3080 Aorus Master does not seem capable to collect data from anything anymore, so it is just showing "0 W TGP" or "0 degresse Celsius". If there is a BIOS Update it is terryfying to think I might brick my Mainboard because the USB-Stick might get disconnected during the process of Updating the BIOS and I'm not particularly amazed about the outlook on having to slow down my PCIE Connections because I did not pay this much money to compromise on performance to be honest. They need to put a fix out SOON. Do you have any recommendations where to reach out to?
renigade234
renigade234 5 өдрийн өмнө
Had the USB problem on my setup. Wasnt a problem from the start though, but only started about 3 to 4 weeks ago. 5800x /Corsair H100i SE / Asus b550 Gaming A / MSI 2080 / Corsair RX 750 PSU. Only thing that hellped "Permanitly" was setting everything to PCI 3.0 That dosent hurt me since i dont have anything that has PCI 4.0 but still annoying.
Kristian Kück
Kristian Kück 5 өдрийн өмнө
Does this concern Threshripper 3960x as well? My mouse and keyboard keep freezing all the time. I will try to set PCIe3 as well and see if that works!
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Өдрийн өмнө
Yes. Amd Threadripper uses AMD Ryzen too and thus is affected too!
CyberCPU Tech
CyberCPU Tech 5 өдрийн өмнө
This secure handshake may effect open source drivers. Nvidia already has a bad reputation for Linux support. This might further hurt that.
IPman501
IPman501 5 өдрийн өмнө
Ironically enough, my 3600 malfunctioned and when I replaced it with a 5900 it fixed the issue
harris 72kolj
harris 72kolj 5 өдрийн өмнө
Thanks yt for sending me this 5 days after its uploaded
VGASM
VGASM 6 өдрийн өмнө
Thank you for bringing attention to the AMD Ryzen USB debacle Paul. I have just built a new rig which I need for editing content for my channel and I am being plagued by the USB disconnecting issue. I have been AMD for about 3 years and have loved it but this time I am seriously regretting not going Intel. I hope AMD sort this before I chuck my ASUS X570 Pro and 3900x in a bin and start again. PS switched to PCIE3.0 in BIOS and still no joy... Many thanks again... Dwight VGASM
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 14 цагийн өмнө
I reckon:It can help to switch to older PCI-Express...But i predict. This will only help you for 1-2 years, then issues will come back. lol That`s just how it is.
b0bst3r
b0bst3r 6 өдрийн өмнө
So last night I shut down as per normal and went to bed, got up next day to a Razor Black Widow keyboard not working correctly. To say it was spazzing out was an understatement, I couldn't log in and I would press 1 key and it would stream up tons of that letter. Rebooted, changed keyboards all similarly not working, tried a 3rd diff keyboard and everything worked. So I thought yeah, my keyboard is busted, so I tried it on my wife's PC and the keyboard worked fine, so I plugged it back in my PC and it worked absolutely perfectly. To say I was confused is an understatement, until I saw this video and now it makes sense. I updated bios to latest version which has "fixes" in it for USB stability so lets see - Gigabyte Gaming X and a AMD 3600.
Convicted Templar
Convicted Templar 6 өдрийн өмнө
i have a 3800x in a 570x aorus elite , i dont really have my usb's dying but i have my whole PC dying. Random artifacts and crashes or self restarts. I already tried many things and nothing seems broken, the only thing i cant change is the gpu( 5700xt). I might try taking it down from pcie4 to pcie3 and pray it fixes the daily crashes.
vexe
vexe 6 өдрийн өмнө
Yep I got my Ryzen and had tons of crashes and instability. Returned and got intel instead. 0 issues now. Sure the Ryzens after faster, but I don't really care if there's the tiniest bit of instability and I can't really trust it and know if its gonna crash during critical work, don't have time to mess around with MB settings and volts etc hoping the random crashes would stop, I just want a system that works!
Rico Suave
Rico Suave 6 өдрийн өмнө
So it's confimred...its a bad time to build a PC..got lucky last year when I bought an RX580 for 200 bucks..they are double now
Custos Venetus
Custos Venetus 6 өдрийн өмнө
Paul’s News or Hardware? 🤔
Shadownoob Noobslayer
Shadownoob Noobslayer 6 өдрийн өмнө
fuck yea fucking miners destroy gpu industry for players ...
txmoney
txmoney 6 өдрийн өмнө
Planning on getting a Ryzen 7000 series system. Hope there are no issues.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 14 цагийн өмнө
i predicted. Cpu-issues will get more and more. It has to do with chemistry and physics. Nobody can stop nature´s laws.
Yi Zhou
Yi Zhou 6 өдрийн өмнө
That's Intel's strong marketing team's game! cheating consumers on TDP. real world 250w and marked 125w
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 14 цагийн өмнө
that is the same like AMD, it says on the paper somethinig like 70 Watt TDP, but in realtity it consumes the full 140 Watts which is the max possible for the mainboards. lol
Ark Design
Ark Design 4 өдрийн өмнө
Nobody cares about tdp. If saving power is so important for you, you should not buy a computer.
joe joubert
joe joubert 6 өдрийн өмнө
Definately something not right.I have brand new Gigabyte VisionD 550 MB + Ryzen5 + all new components + Mint Linux .Everything was fine in beginning but For some reason I lately started getting flickering black screens for a couple of seconds then everything is fine again and then random blackscreens for couple of seconds are back. Bios was updated 2 months ago during build and no other hardware was installed or any changes since initial build.??? So there definately something spooky going on somewhere.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 14 цагийн өмнө
It´s not "something spooky". I predicted heavy cpu-issues for all vendors in the year 2025 ;) Intel will get these issues next...just watch! oh: And apple, of course.
M J
M J 6 өдрийн өмнө
I'm glad these manufacturers are splitting up the manufacturing capacity between like 3000 different models instead of just producing the few that we actually want in larger quantities so we can actually buy one. Can't finish my computer that I built last month until I can actually buy a damn CPU that will work with the hardware I chose. I can wait on the GPU but would rather not.
Black Sama
Black Sama 6 өдрийн өмнө
So, lets copy Gamersnexus hardware news recaps of the week.
Shaun Hall
Shaun Hall 6 өдрийн өмнө
I’m experiencing no pc hardware issues because I can’t buy any of the hardware I’d like.
Khaled Mohi
Khaled Mohi 6 өдрийн өмнө
I am having the same issue, but with the keyboard disconnecting from the USB port. X570 PRO 5900X RTX 3080 Switching to gen 3 fixed the issue.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 14 цагийн өмнө
lol. I had a nice bios-stuttering mouse in 2015 allready. It was on an asus Z87 mainboard as far as i remember. That mainboard was pure bullshit.
Carlos Camacho A.
Carlos Camacho A. 7 өдрийн өмнө
According to my own experience with Ryzen 5000, mine failed under the first 12 hours
Ark Design
Ark Design 13 цагийн өмнө
@Walther Penne I've seen in-depth explanations, but not like yours, daaamn son! I figured it had to be the voltage since a lot of peeps reported 1.5V on their CPUs which is killer for 14nm even, deadlier for 7nm, but I see how they did it now. I still accuse them of cutting too many corners just so they make benchmarks look right for quick sales/stock.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
@Ark Design correct! You got it. Pretty much: The more you do at once with them (multitasking), the faster they (should, in theory) fail. If you ask why... Simpel! The more cores you use at once the higher your voltage has to be. And the more heat is being produced. But: Modern processors cannot use all transistors at once. They have to shut-off many of them to avoid "trouble". THis is why you today have no "real TDP" any longer. Since they consume a different amount of TDP in each load-scenario. Intel does shut these transistors off to avoid trouble (for now). this makes for slower access but avoids trouble. AMD seems to not do it. they just think it´s ok to use them all and then...well physical effects happen. If you do not shut them off, your processor is dying. You lose transistors. They will start malfunctioning. The longer your processor operates in this well let´s say "scheme" of extreme heavy load (online-gaming, chatting with voice, having 5 USB-2 Devices all used at once) the higher your cpu load is. Or in short. The higher your iOPS is! The faster your processor gets killed. USB 3 doesn´t kill your processor since it uses "tricks" like worse polling. USB 3 has a faster bandwidth, since it has more connections. But it also has worse polling to offload your processor. THIS Is why mouses do not use USB 3! They allways use USB 2 instead beacuse it´s faster (Latency)! So yeah: IOPS = Polling dude! Every peripheral you connect, such as mouses, keyboards, Cameras, printers etc The more polling you do, the more bandwidth is required, the faster your processor gets loaded with huge Iops. And this kills AMD Ryzen 5000-chips now. And trust me when i say it: USB is a very dangerous thing. When USB fails, and your cpu is connected to it in the second it fails and "overloads", your processor may die as well. I have seen systems in the past, where the USB failed, the processor got roasted as well! That is because the voltage of the USB flows directly through the processor, once it´s damaged. For this reason USB should never be overloaded!
Ark Design
Ark Design 14 цагийн өмнө
@Walther Penne i stand corrected, it's not the voltage it's the multi-tasking that's killing it. So "currently the best multi tasking CPUs" are dieing because they're made to do more things at the same time(as intended). And people don't lose their shit?
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 14 цагийн өмнө
@Ark Design no dude. Voltages itself aren´t killing your processor. I found out it has to do with I/O instead. So the more I/O-tasks you do (e.g. Windows, gaming, ONLINE-gaming, voice-chatting while gaming the faster your processor will get killed. This is called "Normal usage" after all. Some people never play online-games though. And they also never use Windows, but only Linux. In these cases the processor will last a lot longer becuase of much fewer I/O used.
Ark Design
Ark Design 4 өдрийн өмнө
I reckon they're cooking because of the voltages. They drown the cpu in high voltage to reach the numbers needed to pass the benchmarks and get it in the shops for quick sales. I swear this has been the amd business model for 20 years.
MrNihilist74
MrNihilist74 7 өдрийн өмнө
I have a ryzen 5. The only time I had a problem like this was when I tried to install windows 7 on another partition. Could not get it to recognize the keyboard or mouse even after setting the bios to legacy.
ispguy2001
ispguy2001 7 өдрийн өмнө
GPU's in my area and on-line were sold out. I refuse to buy a GPU for 1,800 bucks
Danny Austin
Danny Austin 7 өдрийн өмнө
My wireless keyboard and mice have started to need plugging in and out again over the past 3 weeks. Its been fine for a year. x570 3700x. No gen4 ssd for me so off it goes
Alora Garcia
Alora Garcia 7 өдрийн өмнө
My 3600 failed 4 days ago.... now Im in hell cause I cant find a CPU to replace it
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
Ryzen 3600?
Mike Andersson
Mike Andersson 7 өдрийн өмнө
first video of computer hardware since november 2020, good video as always but i have given up on launch dates. I will stay with what i have during 2021 because i´m not paying dubbel. Half price would be more fair because booth intel and amd and Nvidia lied.
Gregg Roberts
Gregg Roberts 7 өдрийн өмнө
I've done several AMD builds (5,7,9) this year and haven't heard of any issues. But they are Ryzens.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
it takes years until these AMD Ryzens will fail. Which is what i predicted. Still. In 2021 your systems might die. Lol. Or at least get malfunctioning...
R-Mond
R-Mond 7 өдрийн өмнө
ah no wonder sometime my mouse or keyboard or game controller can be disconnected suddenly. on Asrock Phantom Gaming 4 X570.
ian vosik
ian vosik 7 өдрийн өмнө
my USB's are all dead. I still don't have a cpu.
mpitogo
mpitogo 7 өдрийн өмнө
total bullshit, I game and like to mine in the off hours.
mpitogo
mpitogo 13 цагийн өмнө
@Walther Penne The only game I spent hundreds of hours on is the division 2, its an Online-game
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
It depends on which games you play. Online-games will kill a processor much faster than offline-games...
Abdullah Al-Jedaibi
Abdullah Al-Jedaibi 7 өдрийн өмнө
I had a problem with thermaltake fan quad and gigabyte x570 extreme the fan goes off randomly as controllers when starting my pc or restarting or removing keyboard or mouse razer type i have, i contact thermaltake and sent me controllers and cables and didnt solve the problem contact them again they replace all 3 packed total of 9 fans same problem. I contact gigabyte all what they said update the bios.. So changed all fans to corsair and all my problems fixed
Mohamed Osman
Mohamed Osman 7 өдрийн өмнө
Hi Paul, Until i heard you mention in this video the logo was a thumb screw it never registered to me. I've been watching on and off since lockdown 1.
ConfusedGrandpa
ConfusedGrandpa 7 өдрийн өмнө
and now I know why my keyboard keeps disconnecting on my brand new build...
The Kriptoker
The Kriptoker 7 өдрийн өмнө
PowerGPU just wanted to drum up some buzz for their company.
Alex Potvin
Alex Potvin 7 өдрийн өмнө
Ryzen chips fail. My boss had a 3000 series chip fail. We've seen some fail. I've literally never seen any Intel chips fail or come DOA. It sucks, especially with the current shortages.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
This is just the beginning of the huge 2025-IT-problems i predicted dude... Wait until you see: The same problems will soon face M1-systems from Apple too ;)
Keith Green
Keith Green 7 өдрийн өмнө
Paul, I saw a video that said that the mining specific cards have hash rates lower than current gen cards. The top end one was much lower than the 3080 and the mining community is already telling people to stay away from them. Lower hash rate plus higher wattage means doa.
Ryarios
Ryarios 8 өдрийн өмнө
So it will take someone an additional hour to bypass the limiter...
xHayGyze
xHayGyze 8 өдрийн өмнө
I purchased a 3600 back in april of 2020. It died on me while playing among us in October of 2020. No cooling issues, still not sure what went wrong.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
Among us is an Online-game right? That would explain it => Online games produce a very high load on modern processors! Much higher load than when playing offline games!
Ark Design
Ark Design 4 өдрийн өмнө
Voltage went wrong. For 7nm, the voltage they peak at when just slapping it in is complete overkill. They overclocked the CPUs as hard as they could to beat that nasty intel single core and now they are paying the price for boosting performance with a factory overclock so high it cooks the chips. Again, proof you guys are paying for overmarketed mediocre hardware that doesn't pass a minimum of QA before it gets the Ryzen sticker and the price slapped on it
Crazy_Lew 90
Crazy_Lew 90 8 өдрийн өмнө
Intel user here 😶
Kent Pengelly
Kent Pengelly 8 өдрийн өмнө
"YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!!"
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
There´s no preparation for the huge 2025-IT problems just around the corner...lol
Bill Rea
Bill Rea 8 өдрийн өмнө
If the 3% number is real, it's a big deal. Generally Si vendors target 500 DPM (defects per million) or less and often see less than 200 DPM. 3% is 30K DPM, which is pretty horrible. My guess is that this isn't a Si issue, but if real, it's more likely some MB/vendor edge case problem. High defect rates become huge problems for the supply chain as some markets demand Si defect rates near single digits (such as automotive). Also, as the part is built into motherboards and systems the cost of fixing a problem get much bigger which causes their major OEM customers to throw fits.
BushyGleason
BushyGleason 8 өдрийн өмнө
Yes I have had the issues with the usb 2.0 Build is asus b550 f most recent bios 5800x Rtx msi 3070 trio
Tom Foolery
Tom Foolery 8 өдрийн өмнө
I'm having USB issues, but it seems only to be on my frontside USB 3.2 ports. I have a Ryzen 5600x, Asus b550-i ROG Strix mainboard. I plug my USB drives in the front, and they will frequently disappear and not recognized when copying files. This is obnoxious, as I do a lot of 3d printing, and my sd card reader with disappear when I try to copy my gcode to it.
Tom Foolery
Tom Foolery 12 цагийн өмнө
@Walther Penne I updated my bios, and ryzen drivers. So far I have not had any more problems since
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
This issue will get worse over time...unti it fries your USB-ports (see above/below comments) or your cpu will be killed because of faulty USB (which can easily damage an AMD Ryzen 5000 since USB is directly connected with your processor).
MattEatsMochi
MattEatsMochi 8 өдрийн өмнө
PowerGPU? Being a drama queen? *shocking* /s
Alphastorm
Alphastorm 8 өдрийн өмнө
Mine is.
Gagi
Gagi 8 өдрийн өмнө
Retards who betrayed intel will regret eventually,ryzen will get errors sooner or later.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
but my high-frequency cooooooooooores dude :D All those cooooooooores!
Bella MacTavish
Bella MacTavish 8 өдрийн өмнө
Me and my boyfriend recently bought 3600 cpus, as it’s the cheapest available rn. One thing we have noticed is although they don’t exactly overheat, but both of them, new out of box idle at around high 40 low 50c. Upper temps are around upper 60s low 70s. It’s quite odd that they’re considered perfect temp under load, but uncomfortably high when idle. Kinda wierd.
Alyx Shark
Alyx Shark 8 өдрийн өмнө
Omg yes I literally have been pulling my hair out over my mouse freezing or my keyboard stopping or my headset going static. Have a Strix X570 and 5900X with a 6800XT gonna try setting it to pcie 3.0 and see what happens
TeenyWeeny
TeenyWeeny 8 өдрийн өмнө
why not nerf the mining to 0% ???? I dont care about the minority gamers who mine and game....
Neil Jeffs
Neil Jeffs 8 өдрийн өмнө
Amazon in the UK offer AMD 5 £158
Robert P
Robert P 8 өдрийн өмнө
WAS planning a new PC build but since GPUs are not available I will just hold off another year.
P Harrell
P Harrell 8 өдрийн өмнө
Loving my 3600x. Get rekt early adopters
Jin Kazama
Jin Kazama 8 өдрийн өмнө
Bios update fixed past issues with my 5800x and X570
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
I doubt these fixes will last long ;) It will only last maybe 6-12 more months...then isssues will come back (my prediction). faulty hardware can never be "fixed". you are only buying some time until the voltage,which is now simply higher by standard and making your cpu not instable, is not sufficient any longer. A modern cpu requires more voltage to run stable (assuming you undervolted it) every 1 year assuming you do heavy load on it (such as online-gaming, voice-chatting, mining, or simply doing other heavy load)...
Panos Ntinas
Panos Ntinas 8 өдрийн өмнө
I did bios update to fit the 5600x and a friend told me about the usb problems!! Now im not sure if i recieve the package from the delivery company AFTER i heard that!! X570 OWNER As for the GPUS in Greece SOME STORES (MSI 3070 SUPRIM 699€ X VERSION 999€) some tho the same gpu non X vesion 2300€..!!NOT FAIR FOR US THAT PRICE AMMOUNT!!
Emil Johansson
Emil Johansson 8 өдрийн өмнө
Oculus Rift S going black and crashing....?
Walther Penne
Walther Penne Цагийн өмнө
@Emil Johansson and which processor are you using? An Intel? Or an AMD Ryzen 5000-series?
Emil Johansson
Emil Johansson 6 цагийн өмнө
@Walther Penne Ouch... I found the power save setting in the Device Manage and its was actually enabled :( Actually seems to work... so far. Time for an other USB interface update... :)
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
yep. It´s another USB/AMD-Ryzen processor issue. This can even happen to Intel-processors (i heard) since they aren´t free from this massive USB 2/3-problem because when you connect an Oculus Rift S your iOPS to the processore are much higher than without it connected...
hitmanthesd
hitmanthesd 8 өдрийн өмнө
First, my motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Master X570 died with my Ryzen 5900x after a year and a half (only 1 year warranty in Russia) , now my new B550 Asus ROG Strix XE is driving me nuts with from time to time USB disconnections. I also have new RTX 3080 with this config. Doesn't help when you play competitive online games at all. (((
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
1.5 years? I predicted AMD Ryzen 5000s to die after 1-2 years...It depends on your usage!
Phess410
Phess410 8 өдрийн өмнө
I have been chasing down this frozen mouse issue for a while, I’ll try changing the settings being suggested to see if that fixes it.
Phess410
Phess410 7 өдрийн өмнө
Update on changing to pcie gen 3 so far so good no frozen mouse. This is definitely an issue. I will be staying tuned to see when an update is released.
WhyteLis21
WhyteLis21 8 өдрийн өмнө
So, basically, don't buy anymore AMD 500 series motherboards and 5000 cpu series then, eh? What is the point of going to gen 4 on newer hardware only to go back to gen 3 with bios? WTF? 😁
Martin Heymann
Martin Heymann 8 өдрийн өмнө
Heeeeey! i've been having this usb slot issue for months! i thought it was a lack of usb 3 ports so i bought a hub to extend a couple of 2.0 LOOOL
Robert LailaTV
Robert LailaTV 8 өдрийн өмнө
Mine was fixed with the latest bios update for b550 chipset.
Walther Penne
Walther Penne 13 цагийн өмнө
I reckon the "fix" (since it´s only software) will last you 6-12 more months until the issue comes back...
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